Wednesday, May 28, 2014

a crumb of lucidity on the collective inanity buffet....,


cherispeaks | Because Elliot had threatened his own life and that of others in those April videos there was probable cause for 72-hour metal health hold. By all intents and purposes Elliot’s family, therapist and the ensuing mental health experts that were called all had done the right thing, but it was the Santa Barbara Sheriffs that let him slip through the cracks.

It seems clear there is indeed plenty of documentation of Elliot’s “mental health history” and when you combine that with the nature of the video content for which the cops had been called, one would think the authorities would have done more than stand outside the door chit-chatting.  Had they taken his video messages more seriously, looked into his mental health history and entered the apartment for a safety-check they may have discovered 3 semi-automatic handguns, more than 400 rounds of ammo, knives and the working draft of his “manifesto”. The Isla Vista Massacre by the baby-faced killer may have never happened.

Sgt. Mark Williams of the sheriff’s office is quoted in that same Washington Post piece as saying,

He had some emotional trouble. He was upset. We all get upset sometimes. . . . We have to have a pretty strong belief to take someone’s rights away — the right to bear arms, the freedom.”

It is unclear why Sgt. Williams mentioned a “right to bear arms” unless they had [in April] run a check and discovered Elliot Rodger was a registered gun owner. If they did, then why would they have been so casual after knocking on his door?

Until the time came that Elliot had actually used them, no one, but the shop owners who sold them, knew Elliot had a gun…let alone 3 of them.

Are politics — personal or otherwise, already playing a role in the investigation and aftermath of this tragedy? Is that why Sgt. Mark Williams mentioned Elliot’s “right to bear arms”? This writer can see no other reason why.

While the gun debate rages on with both sides having valid points, it is still only a debate of vitriol while in reality nothing is being done to stop gun violence in America. The NRA, with all of their power and Lobbying money, may not be responsible for the acts themselves, but their rigidity and unwillingness to change is a part of what allowed Elliot Rodger to be able to legally buy the guns that killed 4 people and injured 7 others.

24 comments:

woodensplinter said...

Inexcusably bad, lazy, inattentive, incompetent policing going on here. Somebody ought to be held to account for this.

Ed Dunn said...

Make you wonder about gun rights vs. gun control, feminist vs. MRA, Seth Rogan vs. Ann Hornaway if that skin color debate thing has any miles left...

Vic78 said...

http://www.datingskillsreview.com/images/stories/jreviews/2690_rooshv1_1313777235.jpg
http://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-washington-dc-sucks-for-guys
This was the kind of shit I was talking about on Ed's site. These bitch ass dudes are out here fucking things up for people with real problems. He has the nerve to say he could've helped that boy out. I hate that people with poor social skills pay attention to this fruitcake.

CNu said...

Armchair CSI that I am - I'm thinking that in another time, another context - Rodgers would've turned out much more like this http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/lorenzo_gilyard/2.html

What do you think Ed?

CNu said...

This whole "manosphere" MGTOW is some of teh geh-est shit I've ever seen in my whole and entire life - the very antithesis of game...,

Ed Dunn said...

I'm thinking Jodie Foster would be getting some weird letters in her mailbox if Rodgers were around back in the day....

Ed Dunn said...

I'm about to choke on this grilled chicken sandwich watching all these YouTube videos on this absolute sh*tstorm....

Ed Dunn said...

listening to the guy in the video above was painful...alpha cock? the guy she choosing? He got her all figured out don't he? Damn, the frustration of a man not knowing why she didn't choose him created this whole manosphere ecosystem?

CNu said...

Like nobody ever told these cats there are an awful lot of fish in the sea, and no woman ever approached and befriended them at school, in the office, on public transportation, at church, doing community service, volunteer instruction - you know - all the right places people are about their business or doing for others - and oh, btw - I like you and want to be in your ambit. Fools make the easiest things in the world needlessly difficult for themselves.

Tom said...

Yeah they sound like they're spending their whole lives being bitter about one possible bad decision some chick they fell for may have made years ago.

Tom said...

Wow ... these guys have turned this into a religion.

Ed Dunn said...

Have you seen one manosphere video that talks about how to skin a bear and butcher a rabbit or catch fish with items gathered in the forest..you know...real man stuff?

Tom said...

Yeah ... womanosphere is what it is.

CNu said...

Tap your brakes brah..., I was chillin on my patio saturday morning, when bold as you please, a fat rabbit ran up into my herb garden and commenced to munching on a stevia plant. Pissed me off something fierce. So, since I was going to be firing up the grill anyway, I went downstairs, grabbed my trusty Crossman and several pellets, and came up to add some rabbit to the bbq menu.

Anyway, this rabbit only ate one leaf, then went out to a sunny patch in the yard, and flopped onto its back and stretched out sunning itself. I had never seen a rabbit pull this stunt before. He was enjoying himself so much, I didn't have the heart to end him, skin him, and put him on the menu. I just let him go. I'm not quite sure about this, but I suspect that those stevia leaves may be a little intoxicating to the rodent central nervous system. Those are the only herbs in my garden that routinely get molested.

Ed Dunn said...

First you admit you like to roll 8-sided dice to determine how much hit point damage you made with your staff against an orc, now you watching a rabbit enjoy itself instead of cutting it up and making stew. Come on, we blurring the lines of manhood versus manosphere around here. That rabbit should have been stew

http://quicklol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/rabbit-stew.jpg

CNu said...

rotflmbao...., c'mon magne, he was bliggitty off one leaf of my stevia, how I'ma go harsh his mellow by harvesting his little face for my grill? Before everything's said and done, he and several of his cousins will be marinating in a soy/ginger/coca cola adobo in my basement bar refrigerator, but saturday just turned out not to be his day....,

p.s., because I let good karma flow on saturday, three of my avocado plants broke ground and all my chia just exploded all at once all over my yard and in my mulch pit.

Dale Asberry said...

Doesn't 'manos' mean hand? Jes' sayyin'...

CNu said...

it must...,

Vic78 said...

Hand sphere huh? I see...

Vic78 said...

Where did Mackow get his PhD? I've seen his writings and can't see a gang of professors giving him that title.

Dale Asberry said...

Told you the chia is like a weed!

And what u talkin about exploding in a manosphere thread...

CNu said...

lol, pause....,

CNu said...

lol, nah brah, he was keeping it 100% http://www.mensetmanus.net/mit-motto/motto.shtml

CNu said...

I was tempted to say from Lyndon H. Larouche, but the truth of the matter is much more mundaneHe received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto in 1982. In 1984, he invented Scruples, a game of moral dilemmas.[6]

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